WHO Decides? Sovereignty and Freedom at Risk – with Reggie Littlejohn – [Ep. 259]

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Now, as we do that, I love to have guests who understand how important those values are and how it fits into the world stage. Today I have Reggie Littlejohn. Reggie is a repeat guest. She's such a pleasure to interview and know. Reggie is quite an amazing woman. To me, she is someone I look up to and think, wow, she's just doing so much. The power of one person. It just shows how one person can make such an incredible difference.

Reggie is an attorney, a graduate of Yale Law School. She is co-founder of the Sovereignty Coalition and the founder and president of Anti-Globalist International. Also for Women's Rights Without Frontiers, which is just an amazing organization supporting women's rights around the world.

I just thank you so much for being here. As I said before, you are an attorney, a graduate of Yale Law School, and so you have an amazing background and credentials to help you as you navigate this sea of policy that is affecting all these nations around the world, and especially here for the United States. I just thank you so much for being here, and I look forward to having an update on what's happening with the globalist movement and the sovereignty movements around the world.

Reggie Littlejohn: Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. 

Linda J. Hansen: Yeah, well, it's always great. And again, listeners, I invite you to also go back and listen to the other episodes that have been recorded with Reggie because the information is in continuity, she keeps updating things as they change. 

Recently President Trump said that he was pulling America out of the World Health Organization, pulled the funding, didn't send a delegation. Reggie, I would like you to bring us up with what has happened in the recent meetings at the WHO and what it means to have America and Argentina withdraw from the WHO.

Reggie Littlejohn: Well, in the last month, in May, there was the World Health Assembly, which is the annual big meeting of the World Health Organization, where they considered and adopted something that we call the Pandemic Treaty. This treaty is horrific in a lot of ways. But what I want to say at the outset is that the fact that they adopted it doesn't mean that it's going to come into force.

There are still two things that have to happen. One is there's an annex, which I will discuss, that has to be passed. It probably will not be voted on until next year's World Health Assembly, May of 2026.

Then the other thing is it has to be ratified by the countries. So why did I say that this is horrific? The message has gone out from some in the movement saying, oh, this is great because it's so much better than it could have been. They did take out some of the most egregious language, but what they have left in is enough to establish a worldwide biotech global surveillance police state and also a situation where we are going to be chronically assaulted by pathogens and pandemics.

So why don't I talk about the second thing first, OK? In this treaty, they have something called the Pathogen Access and Benefit Sharing System, PABS for short. So pathogen access, what does that mean? What it means is that nations are encouraged to go and find pathogens with pandemic potential. So go out into your forest or your jungle or your swamp or whatever and find pathogens that could cause pandemics.

Number one, I don't think that we should be doing that. Why should we be searching out to find pathogens that can cause a pandemic? Then what they're encouraged to do is to send the pathogen to the World Health Organization and then the World Health Organization will then forward that pathogen to labs all over the world.

So the idea being, oh, well, maybe they can come up with a vaccine or some kind of therapeutic for it. Well, what could possibly go wrong? I mean right now, the most credible theory is that COVID-19 escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China. So if you're going to be sending these deadly pathogens out to labs all over the world, you are greatly increasing the chances of a lab leak. What that can do is it can just keep the world in the state of chronic pandemic.

You know, got a leak over here of this pathogen. So we've got a pandemic for that. We got a leak over here from this pathogen. We got another pandemic for that, which will cause two things to happen.

Number one, it's going to greatly increase the finances of big pharma. That's the benefit sharing. Pathogen access is when countries go out and try to find these pathogens and send them to the WHO. The benefit sharing is that, in this pandemic agreement, the countries funding the World Health Organization are also going to be funding, creating labs all over the world, which is very expensive. And there's nothing in there.

There are no protocols in the pandemic agreement about making sure that these labs are safe. The benefit sharing is that the country gets paid for their pathogen. Interestingly enough, it's like, oh, find a deadly pathogen. We'll pay you for it. And then they would also have a lab that would maybe get funded in order to find a vaccine or whatever, and then they would get paid for the vaccine.

So the pathogen access and benefit sharing system will greatly increase the profits of big pharma and it will also create a situation, I believe, in which there could be chronic pandemics, which will give those governments that are so inclined, the pretext to keep their countries locked down. They can impose mask mandates. They can impose vaccine mandates and deprive people of their constitutional rights.

So this is the thing. The United States withdrew from the World Health Organization, but that does not make us immune to the pathogens, so that even if we're out beginning in January of 2026, we can still be infected through travel, people coming into the country, us going out in other countries with any pathogen that the rest of the world is infected by. So I just think that this pathogen access and benefit sharing system is nuts, really. 

Linda J. Hansen: Well, it really is. And the other thing, it not only puts people around the world at risk, it puts Americans at risk. But then when you have these pandemic alerts and things, it risks our freedom again and again.

So even if, even if in a perfect world, a perfect world, things didn't touch America in terms of the pathogen, the lack of freedom and the ability to travel or be able to ship things back and forth, have commerce back and forth. I mean, this is all going to be impacted like it was during COVID-19.

I loved how you said that some egregious things were taken out, but there's things that are left in that we need to think of. I think maybe they weren't cutting off our legs, but they cut off our arms instead, right? It's kind of that analogy that some things are out, but we have a lot of things that we need to be concerned about.

Reggie Littlejohn: Yeah I feel like the globalists, the way they operate is they ask for things that are totally outrageous. For example, in one of the early drafts of the pandemic treaty, they were saying that they can tell doctors what to prescribe and what not to prescribe, and then directly order the way that a country would maintain its health care.

So then everybody goes, no, no, no. So then they pull back and they have all this horrible stuff in there. But then the movement, the freedom movement is to claim victory because they didn't do all the worst stuff.

But meanwhile, they did enough stuff that, like I said, this PABS system. And by the way, the annex I was talking to you about, it's the annex spells out the details about how the PABS system is going to work. So those details are not even in the pandemic agreement. They're going to be working those out for the next year, and it's going to come up for a vote this time next year, May of 2026 and then the countries can vote on it.

So if we can stop them coming to agreement on the PABS annex, or if we can, people can go back to their countries and say, look we don't want to ratify this. Either one of those could actually stop the pandemic treaty or countries could just withdraw from the WHO, just like Argentina did and the United States did. So those are sort of our plans of trying to stop this thing.

Another thing that the pandemic treaty does is it is a threat to national sovereignty. It positions itself as, quote, the directing and coordinating authority in international health work. So they are just like, we're the directing. What does it mean that they're directing? Directing sounds like they think that they've got some enforcement ability. 

And nations are expected to change their own domestic laws to be consistent with WHO's provisions and protocols. And then there's a mention in the preamble that the treaty requires nations to, quote, prevent misinformation and disinformation.

OK, so that's kind of frightening because it's one thing to censor people after they've said something. So let's say they don't like this interview. They don't like what I'm saying in this interview. You could say, all right, we're pulling that interview or we're pulling down your platform. We're punishing you. But to prevent it, prevent me from saying it. How do you do that?

Linda J. Hansen: How do you do that? 

Reggie Littlejohn: How do you prevent somebody from even saying something that they think is wrong? And then what's misinformation and disinformation? You know?

Linda J. Hansen: Who decides? 

Reggie Littlejohn: Yeah, well, I'll tell you. That's right. Who decides? Exactly. WHO would decide.

So we can look back to the pandemic that, you know, COVID-19 pandemic to see what how they're going to decide is going to be basically anything they disagree with is going to be misinformation and disinformation, even if it's true. At the beginning, they were saying there's no human to human transmission. So if you were a dissident doctor or scientist saying there is human to human transmission, which was true, you could be censored.

You could be silenced. You could lose your license. Or in the beginning, they're saying this was not a lab leak. This came from a bat in a wet market and if you said, you know what, I've I have analyzed this thing genetically and to me, the genetic anomalies indicate that this is it was created in a lab that would have been misinformation and disinformation, even though now that's the accepted theory.

And so people really lost their credibility. They were shut down. They were shut off social media. I mean, I was shut off. I was shut. I was kicked off Facebook. And I was also kicked off of Twitter for posting that babies, six month old babies should not be required to take the covid jab. And guess what? You know, just last week, they just said they're not going to be requiring them anymore.

Linda J. Hansen: Because of the problems. 

Reggie Littlejohn: Right. I said that several years ago and I was taken off Twitter. I was just restored, like not that long ago, maybe a year ago. But I was off for probably over two years. And I still haven't been restored to Facebook. I know they're making me jump through some kind of hoops to get back on. I don't even care about Facebook. I haven't even gone through it.

But what I'm saying is. They that they are backing, they are requiring censorship of nations that nations are expected to prevent disinformation and disinformation. 

Linda J. Hansen: That's something. And this is the thing to listeners I hope you realize this is an unelected, unaccountable group. They just decided that they're in charge. And somehow as it grew into this worldwide organization of the globalist control just kept coming. And for listeners who might be new to this topic, I just want to make sure you know a few of these buzzwords.

So you have said here, too, that the effort by the global elites is known by several names. The Great Reset, the New World Order, One World Government, Agenda 2030, or simply Global Governance. And your organization, the Anti-Globalist Alliance, is dedicated to resisting this massive global coup. I loved it that you wrote that it's a massive global coup because it's really a takeover of our rights. It's a takeover of the sovereignty of nations. That is not right.

And so that's why you have the Sovereignty Coalition and you're working so hard against all of this. What would you say to Americans who are very, very concerned about this and what we need to tell our elected representatives and our president and what we can do to make sure this doesn't continue?

Reggie Littlejohn: Well, first of all, I would like to say the organization is now called Anti-Globalist International, and the website is antiglobalist.net, one word, A-N-T-I-G-L-O-B-A-L-I-S-T dot net.

And one of the things I would ask people to do is to go on to the website antiglobalist.net and the words that you read are from our manifesto. So please read and sign the manifesto. What that will do is it will put you on my email newsletter list and then I will be able to update you about things that are happening, including action items. And there is an action item that you can take.

So to the upper right hand on the homepage of the website, it says take action. And if you click on there, there's an action. It's on the left, to make Trump's withdrawal from the World Health Organization permanent, because the way it is right now is he withdrew us by executive order, which is all he can do. But the next president who comes in can just push right back in by executive order.

So the only way to make this permanent is for there to be legislation. So if you sign that action there, it will send an email to your congressional representative, your senators and a number of other people saying, please make a bill to make this permanent, to permanently withdraw the United States from the World Health Organization. 

Linda J. Hansen: That's so important. That's so important. And I am so glad. Please give the website address again.

Reggie Littlejohn: Okay, it's antiglobalist.net. So that's A-N-T-I-G-L-O-B-A-L-I-S-T, antiglobalist.net.

Linda J. Hansen: I appreciate so much that you mentioned that. I was reading from your manifesto here.I do invite people to go and read this manifesto and share it with people. These are important principles that people need to understand. You know, sometimes I think people who maybe aren't as into the daily happenings of news and things, as you and I understand, fighting this fight for so long, they wonder why does wrong seem right and up seem like down and things are so confusing.

And who told these people that they could be in charge of us anyway, right? And there's such a history here. And the globalists do not give up. These oligarchs and the globalists, the Marxists, communists, they do not give up. They want total control. They want population control. They want economic control.

They want all control. And they will not give up. So like you said, we get these little wins and we think, oh, it's a victory. But it's really not a victory. It's a battle in a war. But we haven't won the war.

Reggie Littlejohn: Well, we haven't even won the battle because the thing is that they got what they wanted. There is a clip that Tedros Ghebreyesus is the head of the World Health Organization, posted on his Twitter account of the room erupting into applause when they passed the pandemic treaty. I mean, it went on and on and on.

Why were they so happy about it? They weren't happy about it because they lost. They were happy about it because they won and it's their strategy to start out saying things that are just absolutely outrageous that they know are not going to pass.

Then when we fight them and they may pass what they really want, we're declaring victory. But the victory actually belongs to them. OK, so I talked to you about the pathogen access and benefit sharing system. I talked to you about censorship. But I think we do have any minutes left or not. 

Linda J. Hansen: Yes, we do. Go ahead. Whatever you have time for. I appreciate you sharing this with people because it's not in mainstream media. It's not out there a lot. And I really want people to understand this. So whatever you have time to share, I'm more than happy to give you that time.

Reggie Littlejohn: It's so important. OK, well, just the last thing I'll talk about is digital IDs. Very important. So the pandemic treaty does not specifically mention digital IDs. It does mention national health information systems utilizing international data standards for interoperability. What's that? That's digital IDs.

What does mention digital IDs is the International Health Regulation Amendments. They are to be read together with the pandemic treaty. The two documents go together.

So in the IHR, International Health Regulation Amendments, they have a section, an annex, it's just about digital IDs and they have a standard that every person in the world has to have a health ID for the access to the internet or whatever.

They can have a paper ID. But for the rest of us, it's going to be a digital ID and those digital IDs are currently being rolled out by the World Health Organization together with the European Union. They're international. They're interoperable. So what that means is that every country is going to be able to get your information, including China.

So they are spinning these as health IDs. In other words, to keep track of your health status, including your medical, they said that they eventually want to have patient summaries, meaning that your medical records are going to be on your ID. Meanwhile, you're traveling and these different countries are going to have access to it, including China.

But if you want to understand the full nature of these IDs, it's not just health. You go on to the World Economic Forum website, and there is a chart on digital IDs. It shows that the ultimate purpose of these IDs is that you're going to need one to access health care, no digital ID, no doctor visit, to open a bank account, to travel, to own a communications device, for example, a cell phone or a computer, to vote, to access government benefits, to pay your taxes, to participate in social media.

I mean, basically, you're going to need a digital ID to participate in any part, any aspect of civilized life. And if you don't have one, or if you step out of line, for example, that you criticize the government, you refuse to be vaccinated, you can be punished. Now, we can perhaps trust the Trump administration with digital IDs like this.

But God forbid if Kamala Harris had been elected and we had these. They can be used to trace your internet search history, all your social media posts. They could be used to identify people who are conservative, who are Christian, who have values that are not woke.

If you have a woke administration, it could be used to persecute us. So all of that infrastructure is being set up through the World Health Organization and these digital IDs. 

Linda J. Hansen: I'm so glad you brought that up, because the digital IDs are really a digital prison, in my mind. We look, even now, China has their social credit score. There are things that they can or can't do, like you said, if they step out of line, if they are against the government, or if they post something. I mean, there's so many issues across the world where we're seeing these freedoms be reduced and inhibited.

We have to fight against it. I think people just get kind of so apathetic or asleep or complacent, and they don't realize because everything is brought in for the greater good type thing. And this is not only what they said with COVID, but then it's for your convenience. We're here to help you. And it's really not. It's really not. It's a digital prison. 

Reggie Littlejohn: Right. So anyway, thank you for giving me a couple extra minutes. I just would encourage everybody, again, to go to antiglobalist.net and sign the manifesto. That will put you in touch with me. Then go to the Take Action and put your signature on the one that says that we need legislation to make our withdrawal from the World Health Organization permanent.

Linda J. Hansen: Exactly. That is perfect advice for everyone. So I encourage all you listeners and viewers, please do that. We make a difference when we use our voices. Thankfully, we have that freedom in America, and we need to use it and make sure we protect it because not every nation has that freedom.

So it is up to us. And we need to awaken other people as well. So thank you for doing that, Reggie. Thank you for coming back on and giving us an update because a lot of times in the news, everything is, they did this, they did that. It's like you said, it sounds like something good happened when really if you look underneath the surface, we didn't really win that battle. Like I was saying, we think we won a battle, but there's really such a bigger war going on and we need to stay very vigilant.

If we stay vigilant, hopefully we can win this and protect freedom for people, not only here in America, but really worldwide. So thank you so much for your work. I look forward to having you back again and as things progress, if there's ever a time that you think it'd be great to let people know something that happened, please reach out to me. But I know you are a listener favorite and they really appreciate your information. So thank you.

Reggie Littlejohn: Thank you so much. 

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