Unapologetically Favoring Freedom, Life, And Justice For All – with Kevin McGary – [Ep. 185]

Linda J. Hansen:  Welcome. Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Prosperity 101® Breakroom Economics Podcast. My name is Linda J. Hansen, your host and the author of Prosperity 101®- Job Security Through Business Prosperity: The Essential Guide to Understanding How Policy Affects Your Paycheck, and the creator of the Breakroom Economics Online course, the book, the course and the entire podcast library can be found on Prosperity101.Com. I seek to connect boardroom to break room and policy to paycheck by empowering and encouraging employers to educate employees about the public policy issues that affect their jobs. My goal is to help people understand the foundations of prosperity, the policies of prosperity, and how to protect their prosperity by becoming informed, involved, and impactful. I believe this will lead to greater employee loyalty, engagement and retention, and to an increased awareness of the blessings and responsibilities of living in a free society. Listen each week to hear from exciting guests and be sure to visit Prosperity 101.Com.

Thank you for joining with me today. I have a special guest today, Kevin McGarry. Kevin McGarry is an entrepreneur, author, and public speaker in the arena of civic engagement. Kevin serves as chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation of California and is an executive with the Douglas Leadership Institute and the North Star Leadership Pack. Kevin has worked for the past 35 years in information technology as a sales and management professional. Over the past decade, Kevin has led teams of individuals committed to developing innovative approaches to today's social and political issues. He lectures and provides workshops about how to combat today's most perplexing sociocultural issues. In 2020, Kevin founded every Black. Life matters. Every Black Life Matters is designed to counteract the emerging violence and systemic poverty in underserved mostly black urban communities. Every Black Life Matters is seen as a moral based and faith based alternative to Black Lives Matter. Thank you, Kevin, for being with me today, and I look forward to sharing with the listeners what made you found Every Black Life Matters.

Kevin McGary: Ms. Linda, it's a pleasure to see you and to be with you again and to be on your show. I really appreciate that. So here's what we saw in 2020. We saw the horror of George Floyd's life being taken from him for nine minutes and 43 seconds. And so everybody had a mixed reaction to that sorrow, grief, anger, frustration, whatever it was. And we saw that play out on mostly your major metropolitan areas throughout the country. Unfortunately, it was played out with violence, vitriol, hatred, and the utter destruction of black and brown businesses in those cities. And so we said, wow, this is really a strange time in history where we're seeing people complaining about the treatment of black and brown communities while burning down black and brown businesses in those communities. And then the icing on a cake was the pastors across the country were telling their parishioners, go out and be with black lives matter. We thought, this is crazy because Black Lives Matter was on the record at that time for saying, look, we're diehard revolutionary Marxists. We are anti-family. We want to dismantle and destroy the nuclear family. We are anti-man, anti-fatherhood, anti, you know, school choice, all of these things that really make a difference in Black life. So what occurred to us is that, look, we need to stand up an alternative, a righteous, faithful, and just alternative to BLM. I mean, people clearly do have sorrow, grief, and would like to do something to help Black plight. But aligning with BLM is a bridge too far. It's purely demonic. It's Marxist and everything else.

So we stood up every black life matters because from conception to the grave you look at this right here. From the womb to the tomb, conception to the grave, every black life matters. Now, some people would say, look, well, we have so much already. We have so much division. Why are you saying every black life matters? All lives matter. Every life matters. We say, yeah, absolutely, and that's what we're saying. And then they look like, no, you're saying every black life matters. So here's the secret of or. Here's the relevance of why we're saying every black life matters. When Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, decided that she wanted to start her family planning clinics, she said, we want to go out, and we want to utterly exterminate the Negro population. And that was her words. So she started a family planning clinics, which right now are Planned Parenthoods. They're right now, to this day, up to 90% in all black and brown communities, and I mean within walking distance of all black and brown communities around the country. She didn't say, we want to destroy blacks and Latinos or blacks and Asians or blacks in any other race. She said, we want to exterminate the Negro population. So because of that, then what we're saying is blacks are being born at this rate. All other ethnicities are being born at this rate.

There's a pretty significant delta there. And all we're saying is, look, every black life matters too to and so stop targeting the black community. So at the very least, even if you're not a faith person, but you're a moral person, you would agree that, okay, every black life matters, too. Stop targeting blacks and let them be born at least at the same rate that everybody else is, every other ethnicity is. And so we're saying all lives matter, so stop targeting the black community. All lives matter. So stop targeting black and brown communities and handcuffing them to the school system. All lives matter. So stop forcing mostly black and brown communities to get rid of the men in the household so that you can increase their stipend from the government. So we're saying the same things we're saying a slightly different way, and we're hoping that people understand that. Look, no ethnicity, irrespective of which it is no ethnicity, should be targeted for plight and for disruption.

Linda J. Hansen: Absolutely. And I know especially during the summer of 2020 when cities were burning and people were being hurt and killed and there was so much violence and so much of it was antifa and Black lives matter. And if you even said all lives matter, it's like you were a target to them.

Kevin McGary: We had some people lose their lives, if you recall for saying that, and others were just set up on by the so it was a very perilous time. And so for us to say all lives matter, every life matters, we wouldn't have gone anywhere and we would have probably been attacked mercilessly. So every black life matters saying the same thing stop targeting the black community for plight, for destruction, for evil, and at least allow us to live or exist at the same rate that every other ethnicity does, at the very least. But we have a number of pillars, and I know you probably want to get into that, too. That really culminate into what we're all about.

Linda J. Hansen: Well, exactly. In addition to being supportive of letting black babies live and grow within the womb and be born, which is so important for everybody, I know you, and I believe that is true for all races, all people, that every human life is a miracle and should not be extinguished in the womb, should not be murdered. And we're so thankful that you are standing up for life. But when you say every black life matters, I'm sure it opened the door to a lot of conversation, especially in terms of what this racism is in America and what is actually happening. I mean, there's more racism now that everybody's screaming racism than there was even a few years before COVID before Black Lives Matter, all of that. And it's basically I know in your website and what you talk about that you're for and against, you're anti Marxist. I mean, you're very much supporting the Constitution, the free enterprise system, high educational standards for everyone, not saying that blacks are victimized or are oppressed or unable to achieve or do well just because of their skin color, that's just ridiculous. But that is something that is put upon us by Cultural Marxism seeking to divide us and seeking to break down the family, break down the communities, break down the relationships, the good relationships between the races, and break down the spirit of achievement and success and potential for all people. But especially, like you mentioned, the black people teaching one person they're a victim while teaching another they're oppressor is no way to bring unity. So can you address that?

Kevin McGary: Yeah. So the way we like to say is, look, we're one humanity, right? Really? Fundamentally, if you're a God believer, you understand that we all come from the same Garden of Eden experience, right. And God, in his infinite wisdom, and divinity, decided that he would have multiple ethnicities all over the world with beautiful hue and skin color that makes up a wonderful menagerie, a bouquet, if you will, of humanity. It would be very boring if we just had one supreme race or one hue. And so to really appreciate human flourishing, you have to appreciate that we're all one humanity. There is no real fundamentally there is no such thing as race other than one human race now, because the distinction of race exists, which started about the late 17 hundreds, it started the race classification and race distinction and then it was reformatted and refined in the mid 18 hundreds with scientific minds. Again to be more inclusive of skin color as opposed to geography. When it first started, the conversation about race, when it first started in the late 17 hundreds, it was a man by a naturalist, a scientist, anthropologist by the name of Johann Frederick Blumenbach and world renowned and all of that. And basically he said, look, he did it based on geography, came up with five continents that were heavily populated, and says, if you're from here, you're this race classification, from here, you're that race classification. But it's just fine. It had nothing to do with skin color. Johann Frederick Blueenbach understood that skin color could vary in these massive regions, right, these massive continents. So it had nothing to do with that. And he also one of his conclusions was like, look, because he was being asked by aristocrats in the European countries whether Africans, the Ethiopian race, which would include all of the African continent, whether there was any deficiencies or any subtleties between that ethnicity and anything else. And he says, look, I've done the Cranial studies.

There is no distinction cognitive or intellectual, between blacks and any other ethnicity. So that was done in the late 17 hundreds. And then we had this guy who was an interloper. His name was Charles Robert Darwin, who really put the pedal to the metal and made race distinctions and white supremacy a thing prior to him. It wasn't a thing because there was no scientific renowned scientific mind that made it a thing until he did it. I won't go into that because I know you want to cover a lot of things, but fundamentally, it's Darwinist, cultural Darwinism and then Marxism that brings us to this point now where we're seeing and saying that, look, blacks are incapable. They're innately incapable academically. We see that blacks aren't graduating at the rate that they used to, and so we need to curb the academic standards to accommodate blacks. Excuse me. That's Darwinist. Darwin was the first person to come out and says, look, all ethnicities evolve at various rates and stages, and, oh, by the way, blacks are still subhuman. This is what he did and said in The Descent of man, a second book. And this is where a lot of this comes from. So this is Darwinist thinking. That is and cultural Darwinism completely infused across generations now, and it's really set humanity back. And it's forced us to look at race and race classifications and these crazy distinctions that are nonsensical and basically put blacks and other ethnicities in categories with stereotypes and tropes, as opposed to recognizing that we're one human race and we need to embrace each other in that way.

So we are going across the country, and we're dismantling these crazy notions by facts, truths, and history. So it's undeniable. You take our course, you take our trainings, you're going to come to a logical conclusion, historically fact based, and it's going to be undeniable. This stuff that we're seeing right now is by definition racist because it's demeaning. It's basically saying, look, blacks can't compete, so now we have to just put them in positions of power. This is audacious and ridiculous, completely undermines the content of character, completely undermines meritocracy. So what we're seeing now is Darrenus in its worst implementations coming forward again to undermine humanity, and we got to do something about it. So we're here, and that's what we do.

Linda J. Hansen: Well, it's great that you stood up for truth and you decided to stand up and do something about it. So thank you. And when you were talking, I was thinking about how many times I've read accounts from surgeons who say when they open up someone to do surgery, I mean, it's all the same inside, right? And more recently, we've been hearing about airlines and different businesses that are hiring based on race. Well, if I'm going to fly in an airplane, I don't care what color the pilot is, I want to know the pilot knows how to safely fly that plane. The same for a doctor. We talked about surgeons, right? I mean, there's medical schools now that are only bringing people in based on race and hospitals only hiring based on race. It's like, no, I would rather have someone, any color that knows what they're doing. Yes, someone who is competent. And one of these things, too, that I always think about is you hear about biracial couples and biracial children, it makes it so confusing for them, and that's so heartbreaking. It's like, why is everything about skin color? We're teaching children, this is so wrong.

In addition to many other things, our culture is teaching children. That is wrong, but this is just so wrong. And if you look at young children, they don't care about race. I mean, you look at two and three year olds playing, they could care less. They stand up. If you put them in the same clothes, they say, look, mom, we're twins, so it's really nothing. And so this is something that is meant to divide and meant to bring in this cultural upheaval and this division and a house divided cannot stand, whether it is a family, a company, or a country, a house divided cannot stand. So we must unite. And I love what you're doing in the fact that you're bringing training to churches and to the workplace. I know with Prosperity 101®, I offer training for the workplace and other places, others, but training for the workplace so people understand the meaning of prosperity. It's not just money, it's human flourishing and freedom. That they understand the basic principles of our government that allow for that type of prosperity and freedom, and that then they understand the basic economic policies that allow for that, which I know you touch on as well, and then just how to protect all that by becoming an informed, involved, and impactful citizen. These basic civics lessons, these basic introductions to our American government, our founding documents, and our system of government that these past generations have not been taught in school. And so I really believe the workplace is the final frontier for us in terms of saving our nation. And we see that the left has definitely taken over the workplace and know, just brought in CRT and DEI and all these programs into the workplace.

So I try to combat that with what I have. And I know that you're trying to combat that with a true alternative that actually touches on the DEI and CRT and explains how we can have a fact based DEI, a fact based CRT. And a few weeks ago, I had a Mark Griffin, and I know you two have sometimes worked yeah. In his name, HR, so people can look back at, you know, these are alternatives. So employers and employees, if you are listening, we have alternatives to what is being offered in your HR departments. I have a great course that can be offered in your HR departments. You can give it to your employees. You can give it to your trainees. You can share with it. It's legal, it's simple, it's informative. Kevin has a great program that you can share with your employees. And if you're a pastor, you can share it in your church. So can you explain a little bit about your course and how it would work, say, in the workplace?

Kevin McGary: Yeah. So what we found is I've written two books last year. The book that I wrote was Woke Up, and it was going really kind of confirming that the woke movement is really embedded in white supremacy and racism itself. So if you're woke by definition, you are literally white supremacist and racist. And it's just because of where it comes from. The second book I just wrote, it was just released about maybe a month ago now, a few weeks to a month. And it's DEI in 3D, giving you an in depth look of DEI. Why is it here? Where does it come from? What is its motivations? Fundamentally? What's the point? Dei in 3D, it's available on Amazon. So here's the point. What I found in doing the research on historically, it started with foundations. Why? There's this incongruency with equal treatment, equal appreciation, one human to another, which is really the foundations of where this stuff comes from. And I already talked about one of the historical figures that led to that. And then I go through other figures that have come since then that are really trying to usher in a communist utopia. So you know who that is? That's Karl Marx. And some people will say, well, why are you just jumping on Marx? I wrote this book from an apolitical, non ideological perspective.

I'm just following the tea leaves wherever they flow. I'm giving you accurate history. This is what it is. So I don't tell you upfront that Marx was a commie and this is all a communist tactic. That's not the point. When you follow the logic all the way through, you see that it's manifested just what it is in the same way with our trainings, we stand up our DEI training and certifications and racial unity training and certification. And basically we come from an apolitical point of view and a non-ideological point of view. It's not right or left. We're trying to unpack history with you for you, so we can learn together and grow together and understand really what's going on, what's at stake here. And when you do that in our various modules, in that you begin to see a scenario where you could connect the dots throughout history and you'll see clearly what's happening right now. So I'm so glad that you mentioned that, really, the workplace now is a frontier. It is the focus of these crazy globalists that want to do a great reset and everything else. They're doing it through the workforces by virtue of ESG. And you speak a lot about ESG with your prosperity stuff, environmental, social, governance. Well, one of the standards in ESG, of course, is social. Okay, social. The scoring on that within the globalist mindset is okay for social. If you've done CRT programs, if you fully implemented DEI, these types of things as checkoffs, then they'll continue to loan you money. And people need to understand this is a trillionaire class. This is not globalist billionaires. This is State Street and Vanguard and BlackRock. And these guys are trillionaire financial institutions.

So when you have people go off the reservation, do crazy things like the Bud Light thing that they did a few months ago, they may have taken a big hit publicly, but at the ESG level, that's a so. What we try to expose during our training is, look, we're being socially conditioned. So social conditioning by way of demoralizing, dehumanizing, and then normalizing our behaviors. Okay? So the reason why there's such an emphasis at the global level on ESG and me, on CRT and DEI is because if we can get people in the US workforce to moralize to such an extent that they recognize that this is not about fairness, it's not about equal opportunity, it's really about equal outcomes. And all of that, then they're to a degree, when, you know, the great reset is attempted to be overlaid on the United States, people say, well, obviously we're just trying to know the monthly stipend for everybody. But we've been so beat down within our workplaces that we won't have a civil war over the World Economic Forum, for instance, trying to reset the United States. So this is part of the social conditioning part. Now, the reason why I'm so emphatic about it the reason why I know is because if you look back at the interviews with C. Everett Garrett Griffith with Yuri Bismonov, who was a former KGB agent who came to the United States, and he gave us the inside scoop. He says, we've been at this and this is in the early 1960s and 70s say we've been at this for about 50 years at that time. So now it's about over 100 years where the communist mindset is being thoroughly infiltrated in every what you and I would call people of faith, every mountain of influence, right? So it'd be media, entertainment, academia, and family. So this is something that's been going on, and it's social conditioning. And we're at that final stage now where we're being normalized to just accept it. Look, meritocracy is dead. Content of character is dead. Equal outcomes the only thing that matters. So we're influencing the workplaces to do this kind of overlay on it. The other thing that it provides. So there's two fundamental goals of DEI in particular provides retribution for those who have a chip on their shoulder, who feel that there is this dichotomy of oppressed. Oppressor and victim. And victimizer to where they can be in. Positions of power now and start to meet out their retribution on those that they deem as threats or those that they deem as the oppressors. Right? So you got social conditioning and retribution that are the fundamental factors and why Dei is being so heavily influenced and pushed. Now, some of your listeners don't doubt, and some of the people that haven't contacted you yet but need to, they haven't contacted you because they're saying, look, Dei doesn't affect us. We're good. We're a small organization. There's no problem. Those people need to wake up. Everybody on the planet is affected by Dei. Listen carefully. Everybody on the planet is affected by Dei. Now, you may want to ignore it, but you cannot say that you're not a part of it. You're being consumed by it, but you may not actually feel it. But when you have a government like what we have right now, the Biden administration second day in office says, we are all in on Dei last year. He says, we have an all of government approach to Dei. All of government. That means every department, every agency, every part of our government. If you're here in the United States, guess what? You're affected. You may want to ignore it, but you're affected. And so everybody needs to understand what this is and what it's not. And they need to understand the various ways that it can come forth in their kids and their grandkids. Because every school district is also in on this, right? And how this is all encompassing, how it's pervasive at the global level. ESG it's pervasive. So it's inescapable, folks. So we just need to be smart and get educated so we understand what it is. And when it starts to knock at our door and really start to impact us, we'll have a way around it. Even if you're a small hairdresser, it's just you, and you just have a storefront. Guess what? When you go to the bank for that next level loan, they may ask you questions like, I know you don't have any employees, but have you ever had racial training? And you say, Where's this coming from? Racial training? What do you mean? Okay, check you haven't. What do you know about diversity, equity and inclusion? What's your trans policy? These are things that financial institutions will begin to make note of, and they will make their determination whether you're credit worthy based upon that.

Linda J. Hansen: So anyway, yes, exactly. And we have heard of companies and individuals who've had their bank accounts closed, canceled, cut off, because of their political views. And if anyone doesn't believe me, just listen back to a few of my episodes where I've interviewed some of these people. But also just start researching because you will see, and you're so right when you say that this will affect every single person. It already does affect every single person. And even if you're not in the US, this is a global push. And if America falls, as I often say, if America falls, the world falls. I mean, no one is coming to rescue us when we run out of money. No one is coming to rescue us when our freedom is endangered. No one is coming to rescue us when the government is too tyrannical for the citizens. And so it is up to us as citizens to say, no, we're not standing up for this. We're not doing this. We believe in equal opportunity, not necessarily equal outcome. We want everybody to be able to rise to their fullest potential, achieve their American dream, their international dreams, if they will. But we believe every person is inherently created by God that they're built with their own set of talents, abilities, and everything that is just unique and precious and worthy. And we want everybody to rise and freedom for all. I appreciate that you mentioned how I said the workplace is the last frontier. This is something when I started Prosperity 101® back really late 2008, 2009, I think I was ahead of my time, actually. But it was really helpful here in my state in terms of educating workers who were not aware that they were going to vote and voting themselves right out of their jobs. This has been my passion is to help people understand how all of these policies affect their workplace, their jobs, their personal and family economy, their communities. It is such a ripple effect and every policy can affect us positively or negatively. And so being aware of even the most basic is so important. One of the posters that I have on my website is just simple. It is the Bill of Rights and says, are you voting for a person who will protect your rights? Yeah, I've had employers tell me I can't put that up, it's too political. And to that I say, oh no, you have been conditioned to think that this is political. This is not political, this is freedom. This is basic. This is not right or left. It is basic. Like we have these rights inherent from God. It is government's job to protect our rights. It's government's job to protect those rights and it's our job to make sure we're electing people and holding people accountable to protect our rights. And when we are complacent and uneducated about issues or improperly educated about issues and we just take it without questioning it, we end up giving away our freedom and we give away black life freedom. We give away white life freedom. We give away brown life. Freedom. We give away freedom. And so I'm passionate about helping employers have tools in the workplace, basically because I feel a calling that we must reeducate. As you mentioned, this has been a multidecade approach to the cultural Marxism of our society. It's multidecade. So we have an opportunity in the workplace to educate people who were not taught in school, they were not taught the basics of American government, american civics and what's true. And so if we don't rise up, what will happen? If not us, who? And if not now, when? Because we may not have another era of opportunity here in this nation to speak about freedom the way that we do now. So before we close though, I just wanted to take people through a few of the highlights on your website and we'll mention it again. But for listeners it's everyblm.com. So for everyblacklifematters.com everyblm.com and they have a section on there, the homepage, it says we believe they're pro black life. But they explain they're pro all life really. They're black economic prosperity and antimarxist. That really the economic policies that help everyone rise. High expectations understanding that skin color does not determine a person's abilities or their academic or personal financial professional success. High expectations believing everyone can rise to their fullest potential providing education.

Kevin McGary: Quick thing about that. Some people may not know how that's actually being played out, but when your kids go to school and then their teachers say, look, because it's a white man's world, you're never going to be an engineer, you're never going to be renowned artist, you're never going to be a novelist. Go to the post office. So they. Set them up for low expectation, and it's time out for that. This is abusive. This is child abuse. When you put frames and parameters around what children could ultimately achieve, we set them up for failure. So what we're saying there is, look, no, take the stop that kind of talk, take the blinders off. Let's encourage our children reach for the stars, whatever they want, let's encourage them to try to go for it.

Linda J. Hansen: Exactly. Whatever race or like, I've grown up as a woman, so was always told I could do anything even if I was a woman. Right. And so we just want to make sure everybody can achieve their highest potential and their dreams and goals. And with that comes educational choice. You mentioned educational choice, making sure everyone has opportunity for a quality education.

Kevin McGary: I don't mean to interrupt you.

Linda J. Hansen: It's okay, go ahead.

Kevin McGary: But this is important because you're dealing with I deal with employers. Right. Some of these employers are completely smitten by DEI. Okay, whatever. But what's interesting is you ask these employers about or you ask these DEI professionals about their stance, about what's going to make the biggest difference, and they continue to point to, well, outcomes. We just need to put people in position. And I challenge them. I say, no, wait a minute. If we had the same playing field growing up, the same opportunity for education, we wouldn't be in this position. And then they think and they say, yeah, I guess you're right. So education choice, if you're sincere now, there's a lot of people that are just commies. They're Marxists. They don't care. But if you're sincere about true diversity, you must then push for school choice, educate. This is not an option because you want everybody to be flourishing at the same levels and for meritocracy to bring the cream of the crop to your organization. That means you want people to have the same level playing field. That means school choice. Go ahead. Sorry.

Linda J. Hansen: Exactly. And I am definitely a school choice advocate, and I homeschooled my kids. So school choice is so important, and for the sake of time, we can't go into a lot more of these. But I just wanted to mention what the high points are. You definitely are nonviolent black. Life Matters was not necessarily nonviolent, and you are in definite opposition to that and really speak out about that on the website as well. And promoting fatherhood. You mentioned earlier in the broadcast about how the whole culture has diminished the role of the father in the home, especially in the black community, and caused government dependence. Then, I mean, they've encouraged a lack of fatherhood in the homes and created this welfare state for especially the black community, and kind of put them in this prison of this economic prison, I should say, that takes the father out of the home. So helping the father in the home and helping fathers in general to have a greater awareness of their responsibility and opportunity to raise their children and how that impacts society. I think that's just amazing. You're definitely for real justice, which people can read more about what you mean about that? And pro law and order criminal justice reform that is sensible and right.

Kevin McGary: And then because we had unsensible 1994 legislation passed by the current occupant of the White House that he beat his chest for for decades, saying, hey, we put these urban dwellers behind bars for a little $5 piece of crack. So we need criminal justice reforms because this guy is the guy who made things so unequal in our justice system, and he's continuing to do that today. You see how he's attacking his political foes and all of that. So, anyway, criminal justice forms.

Linda J. Hansen: Sorry, exactly. No, it's great. There's so much more we could talk about because every point is important. Every single point that you have on your website could be an entire episode all of itself. So it's hard to bring it into one short episode. So, listeners, I invite you to go to his website and tell people again how to get your book and the address for your website.

Kevin McGary: Kevin yeah, so the address for the website is everyblm.com and you could buy the book off the website as well. But there are two books. So last year I wrote woke up. The subtitle is finally putting an axe to the tap root of white supremacy and racism in America. So that book was written ten months ago. Now, Dei in 3D, which the subheading is Deciphering the Designs, the Demands, and the Dilemmas of Dei was just released about a month ago. So it's the newest one. But both of these books, if you want to understand what's happening in culture, you want to understand how to combat this crazy that we're under right now. You need both books. And I'm not trying to sell books. I'm just saying to have the background, to have the history, to have all of the footnotes of history, everything's thoroughly footnoted. So you can go right to and take your kids and grandkids when they start calling you white supremacist and racist. You can say, well, wait, let's sit down, let's take a look. Know how this all came about. You could actually help them, coach them, train them, and do so anyway. So both books are available on Amazon? All of my books are available. This is my 6th one. So just go to Amazon.com and type in that and you'll get access to all the books there.

Linda J. Hansen: Well, that's great. And just one closing comment for employers who need to understand the importance of educating their employees in the workforce, both about what I'm doing with Prosperity 101® and what you're doing.

Kevin McGary: Yeah, my ending comment is this. Look, all businesses are being affected by current policy, the US policy, and the global policy to be able to sort through these things you need a leadership team that actually has a leadership lens. To get a leadership lens for what's going on today, you need Prosperity one on one with Linda and then myself and Mark Griffin. We work together opportunistically and strategically, so we can help you with DEI training and certification the right way. We can help you with racial unity and those types of things as well. You can find out more information by going to our respective websites and we'll connect with each other appropriately. But every business needs to get retrained leadership, the leadership team and then the ranks as well. But leadership training is vital and important and this is why this conversation is so important at the moment.

Linda J. Hansen: Well, it really is and thank you for that. And so listeners, again, I know it'll say at the end of the broadcast, but please go to my website to prosperity 10 one, Prosperity 101. Com. And there's an online course there. It's easy to share with your employees. It's easy to implement either with workshop type settings or just an online course for them. I have other resources, I can come speak to your group. But we want to help you in the workplace, get truth out and help your employees understand how important all of these issues are to their daily life. And for anyone who is listening or has been a listener, I could use your support too with Prosperity 101®. Please go to the website and find the Prosperity Partner link and any support is welcome. We love your contributions. We cannot do this without you, so please support our efforts. And I know Kevin would like you to go to his website too and donate to his efforts. None of this is free. The government doesn't pay us to do any of this. So we need people to support our work and we just want to be able to be in the workplace helping more people to be free. So thank you.

Kevin McGary: Absolutely.

Linda J. Hansen: Thank you, Kevin.

Kevin McGary: Thank you, Linda. God bless you.

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