Serving Vulnerable People, Battling The Great Reset, Promoting Freedom – Aligning In Purpose – [Ep. 219]

Linda J Hansen: Welcome. Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Prosperity 101® Breakroom Economics Podcast. My name is Linda J. Hansen, your host and the author of Prosperity 101® Job Security Through Business Prosperity: The Essential Guide to Understanding How Policy Affects Your Paycheck, and the creator of the Breakroom Economics online course.

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But for now we just, hope that you'll enjoy listening to this entire, very educational broadcast. My guest today is Jason Jones. He is someone that I met years ago and recently got reconnected with. He is the President of Hero Incorporated. Hero Incorporated is kind of, you know, I'll let him explain it, but it's more like an umbrella for other things he does, Movie to Movement and the Vulnerable People Project. 

He also has a fantastic website called the GreatCampaign.org, which helps people understand the great campaign against the great reset, which I recently discussed with Reggie Littlejohn a couple episodes ago. So, we really need to, pay attention to all of these areas where freedom is endangered, and I'm just so thankful to have Jason on.

He's got so many projects from movies to helping the vulnerable people, which is another thing, the Vulnerable People Project. So, Jason, I know that this is a lot for listeners to take in. So, I am going to let you sort it out. So welcome to the podcast. We're just so glad you're here and please share with the listeners a little more about you and what you do with all these organizations.

Jason Jones: Well, thank you very much, Linda. It's great to be on your show. You are like Miss Wisconsin. You've got the great Wisconsin accent, the blonde hair, so.

Linda J Hansen: We don't have accents in the Midwest. I'm sorry. We do not have accents in the Midwest. 

Jason Jones: You have a Wisconsin accent. You are a Packers fan. Unfortunately, I'm a Bears fan, I just want to say. But just listening to you talk, I want to get cheese, curds, and beer, but, yeah, so I run an organization. I founded it, had the idea for it really, I'm speaking, I'm doing a little video now for TPUSA. 

And I remember getting the idea from my organization as a young soldier. I dropped out of high school the day I turned 17. I actually left for basic training a few weeks after my 17th birthday and, but as a young infantryman, I had this idea of a nonprofit. It's going to sound a little cheesy, but at the time I thought, imagine if there was a human rights organization that did for religious and ethnic minorities facing genocide or war what the Green Berets do.

But rather than like train them in weapons, it'd be in press releases and how to get in the newspaper and how to write editorials, and how to influence Capitol Hill. And so, I had this idea, and then it really gelled as an undergraduate student at the University of Hawaii, where I had some, believe it or not, some really great professors.

And R. J. Rummel, who wrote the book Death by Government, was a professor at the University of Hawaii at the time. And then sort of my faculty advisor was Dr. Kate Cho, who was a survivor of the Cultural Revolution and was an anti-CCP warrior. So, I got the idea for this organization. And then shortly after graduate school, I founded it in 2002.

So, the name is Human-Rights Education Relief Organization, and our mission is very simple. To defend the vulnerable from violence, from the child in the womb to the child in Darfur, by promoting human dignity and inspiring solidarity. 

And we have two programs, two main, we have a lot of programs, but two main programs, Movie to Movement, which produces movies, like you may have seen, Bella, for example, was my first film, the one that, 2007 Toronto International Film Festival Award. And I've worked on over 50 films. 

I'm actually going to Spain later this month to do my next film. It's an Ernest Hemingway film that has a pro-life theme that we're shooting in Spain. But that's what Movie to Movement does. 

And then, the Vulnerable People Project runs aggressive, influence campaigns on behalf of the most vulnerable abandoned communities in the world, whether it's the Uyghur in Chinese-occupied East Turkestan, the Yazidis and Christians in Iraq and Syria, or the Christians in Gaza, whether it's Jews in Nigeria and Christians in Nigeria, Christian suffering persecution in India. Now we're, believe it or not, even in the Philippines with the rise of ISIS.

But we seek to serve the most vulnerable communities in the world. We're really gained a lot of attention from our work in Afghanistan, where as far as we know, the only Western organization that operates across Afghanistan still. We provide education for girls. We have women's medical centers. 

But most of our work is providing care for the widows and orphans of our Afghan allies who have been killed in action, and then evacuating and resettling our Afghan allies who are in, you know, would be in real trouble if they stuck around Afghanistan.

So, it seems like we do a lot, but, you know, a fireman climbs a ladder. He goes down a pole. He, you know, drives a truck. He has a fire hose, you know. He swings an axe. And so, but he just puts out fires, you know. Well, we defend the vulnerable from violence by promoting human dignity and inspiring solidarity. It looks like we do many different things, but really we just do one thing. 

Linda J Hansen: I understand one thing with many channels to do it through. And that is really beautiful. I heard you recently on the War Room and I was so intrigued again with what you do with the Vulnerable People Project and especially, you know, we talk about like the Christians in Nigeria. I've done some episodes on that and really helping people to understand what is happening there with the Christians in Nigeria.

We see that across the world, Christians are persecuted really, you know, more than any other religion right now. And the fact that you're doing this and have been doing this is really a blessing and coming up against the CCP and the powers that be in the globalist movement, is no small feat.

And we need those voices out there that will really help to promote. And so, you are just doing a great job. I love, could you tell the people if they go to VulnerablePeopleProject.com, what will they see there? 

Jason Jones: Yeah, I think you'll be a bit surprised. You'll see a lot of my writings, which by the way, might startle a lot of people because a lot of what we've been doing is battling the globalists, battling the great reset.

Here's my new book, The Great Campaign Against the Great Reset. You can buy it everywhere you buy books. Just, right as we were talking before we're going on the air, I just found out it's going to be released this summer, I believe in Portuguese, in Brazil and Portugal. So, I'm very excited about that.

Linda J Hansen: Wonderful.

Jason Jones: You know, you'll see a lot of my articles. But when you go down to the page, you'll hit the video section and you'll see our work in Nigeria, in Sudan, in India, in the Philippines, and most of you will see a lot of our work in Afghanistan. And we run girl's schools in Afghanistan. We provide armed security guards for the students. 

With the present government's permission, believe it or not, we drill wells. We have women's medical centers, and a lot of times we can tell people all we do, and I just, they don't, it goes against what they're hearing in the media, even when we were evacuating wounded Christian women and children from Gaza. It was really hard for people to believe that we were doing this, but we were and we are still. In fact I'll be there soon.

But yeah, so you go to the website VulnerablePeopleProject.com and you can sign up for a newsletter and we'll update you every week or so on the work that we're doing around the world.

The big thing we're doing right now, and by God's grace, we're in the midst of a fundraising campaign. If we can raise $300,000, it's rainy season in the Nuba Mountains. With the Civil War, most of the Christians and other minorities have fled into the Nuba Mountains, but they've run right into rainy season.

In fact, my director, my partner, who's directing the whole project, an American guy, I don't want to say his name in there, but he's battling typhus and malaria right now. So, this is what the reality is for these refugees in the rainy season. So, for $300,000, which we're about halfway to our goal, we'll be able to shelter every one of the about 50,000 refugees with tarps.

They build these grass houses, but the rain gets through. These storms are horrible. We give them nice tarps. It seems like such a little thing. But for $300,000, we can help keep, you know, 50,000 women and children and, it's women and children because the men can't leave. If the men, as the women and children are on the buses, if there are men, they just pull them out and shoot them or pull them out and forcibly conscript them.

So, we're talking about 50,000 women and children. So, you'll get to see all that work we do that sometimes when people hear it, they go, “Huh? That doesn't, that's not what I'm hearing in the news. No one's been able to do that.” Well, and people will say, “Well, is this your military experience? Is this where you learn how to do all this?”

No, it's that we're the body of Christ. And we organize the Christian communities we serve and the other communities we serve. We organize them and we train them, and we work with them like Green Berets would do. But we train them in how to care for the needs of their community and advance their interests.

And so, A, it's cheap. I have 13 employees in Kabul, for example, and they get $100 a month. Well, that $100 a month keeps their families alive and they're doing pretty well. And those 13 employees have kept, they've delivered 6 million meals to the widow's orphans of our allies over the past two years. And a broader team that we have across the country has delivered a hundred million hours since the fall of Afghanistan in heat through coal and fuel deliveries. 

And it sounds like a big number, a hundred million hours of heat, but winters are long and cold. So, the reality is we're keeping tens of thousands of people alive through this brutal winter. But, you know, the entire country faces the challenges of exposure. But the reality is that the men who died fighting along American soldiers, the fact that we can keep their families alive means a lot to me. 

Linda J Hansen: Well, to me as well and, you know, I think that anybody listening can think about that fall of Afghanistan and just the human suffering and the terror that people must have felt. And, just the entire, I don't even want to use word mismanaged policies, but because they were managed just like they wanted them to be, but they were horrible policies. 

And you know, I just know for so many military members, ex-military members, too, you know, it brought on a whole new wave of PTSD from what they'd already gone through as they watched Afghanistan fall. I mean, so even these soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, who were home front, watched this and the horrors of war and the horrors of this came through.

And then, you know, we just think if people think back to remembering that baby being carried over the wall, you know, this, the human suffering is there. And it's so good that you are there helping to meet that need because you know, everything doesn't stay in the news cycle and the mainstream media wants people to believe what they want them to believe and they want, you know, everything goes down a memory hole.

And so, for those who are faithfully still serving through the body of Christ serving people because of the love of Christ, I mean, it's just an amazing ministry. And so, I'm just thrilled to hear about it. 

So, listeners, I do want you to go to VulnerablePeopleProject.com. Find out more about that work and how you can maybe support it. I'm sure, if you're listening to this, I'm sure your heart's broke to see what happened in Afghanistan and how it, not only affected our Afghan allies and their families, but, you know, what it means to our nation. So, you know, just keeping that relationship there is just amazing. So, thank you for that, and for what you're doing with other, other vulnerable people around the world. 

I do want to talk a little bit also about the GreatCampaign.org and how this book and what you're doing to help people understand how to fight against the Great Reset. So, talk a little bit more about that as well.

Jason Jones: Yeah, well, the reality is, a year ago this week, want to know how quick this book was, it was done, a lot of research that we were doing, but a year ago this week I was in Ukraine. 

And I was on deadline for another book, on a spiritual autobiography for Sophia Press called On Rocky Soil. The Spiritual Autobiography From A Man You May Not Meet in Heaven. That book will now be coming out in April. 

But I was not mad at God, but I'd been around, I was in Ukraine at the time. I was seeing all the hell on earth that is on the frontlines of Ukraine. I'd visited a hospital that was a former Soviet prison, where every room was filled with boys missing arms and legs and eyes, or all the above.

You know, work in Afghanistan was very challenging. And I was just not gonna make the deadline for my book. I had not written a word. I had a white page. That's where I was. Always tomorrow, I'd be better. Always tomorrow, I'd be in a mood to write this book. And any author will know, like, you're never in the mood to write a book. You just write a book. And then the mood strikes you as you're writing. This is how it goes for Ernest Hemingway—

Linda J Hansen: Right, yes.

Jason Jones: —and it's how it's going to go for you or me and everyone else. So, but I just, I was like in a car with God, like, God, we're going the same direction you're driving. I'm here. Let's just not talk, okay?

I didn't want the music on. I'm just looking out the window because I'm trying to wrap my mind around all the death and destruction and horror that I've been living around for 25 years, but the last two years were over the top. But I realized that what I was witnessing in my work was a great reset.

This was all part of the plan to homogenize and break down the world. And so, as I walked through and saw all these boys in Ukraine, I said, I want to write. I'm in the mood to write a book and I'm going to call my publisher. I called my publisher from, I got out of Ukraine and I was in Spain, I had to go to visit some Afghan girls that were wounded by ISIS that we had in a hospital in Spain.

And it was there that I called Sophia Press and said, I'm not going to have this book done for you by the deadline. And I don't know when I'm going to be able to have this book done. But I want to write a book, The Great Campaign Against the Great Reset, that looks at it from a totally different approach, from an anthropological perspective.

This is a war over anthropology. There's two visions of the human person. There's the vision of the human person that the Great Reset is really all about wiping from the historical memory. And that is the truth that first came to us through the Hebrew scriptures, and then was more fully presented through the incarnation of the second person of the Trinity in Jesus Christ.

And it's even embedded in our Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are endowed by God with inalienable rights. It wasn't, it's not self-evident. The Founding Fathers thought of it as self-evident. Because they were at the crest of 1,700 years of Christian civilization.

But this is a revealed truth. It is true you can look at a human person and they're spectacular and mysterious and confusing and unique, holy, set apart, different than the rest of creation. But what explains it? Only Christian, only the Christian religion can really fully explain the truth of the human person.

And with the Great Reset, which is oftentimes grounded in Nietzsche, in Heidegger, what it seeks to do is wipe away this understanding of the human person. So, I wanted to look at The Great Reset through that lens, through the Christian vision of the human person, which is exactly what the Great Reset is seeking to wipe away.

Every humane and decent institution that we, as conservatives seek to conserve, is literally rooted in the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Just period. And whether you're an atheist or another religion, you have to acknowledge. Take the hospital. Take the word hospitality. The word hospitality comes from the word hospital. Because in hospitals, before, when they were concerned with hospitality and not customer service, they treated you as a creature made in the image of God. They saw themselves as your servant, that you were their lord. 

And where did that word hospital come from? The Knights of the Hospitaller. The Knights of the Hospitaller or the Knights of Saint John of the Hospitallers. They created the first hospitals. It was an order of knights that went to the Holy Land to provide medical care and hostels and hotels. Hospitals, hostels, and hotels for the traveling pilgrims who were often peasants. And these men slept in the dirt or on wood boards. They were from wealthy families, and they funded their own initiatives through their families. But the people they served slept on feather beds and ate off silver, silver platters. 

So, you can go through humane institution, beautiful institution in the West. Those things that we seek to conserve are all grounded in the Christian understanding of the human person. And you can look at the abuses of the human person that we're witnessing through the Great Reset, and these are all intentionally designed to obliterate from our historical memory the truth about the human person.

So, I bet, I didn't know if they were going to say yes or no, they're like, “We love that. Let's do that.” And then I kind of crawled out of my, I think the theological word is acedia, you know, I was wrestling with. And now I'm in the, and I'm writing my next book and it's flowing, and it's going to be better than it ever could have been if I didn't really go through that dark night of the soul. Really started with the fall of Afghanistan and then with our work in Ukraine just kind of bubbled up.

But yeah, so that's the root of the book. And so, they say, it's June, “We want it in April. You need to get it to us,” I think it was by like, November, and I got it to them like in January or December, and they were able to get it out in April, and I was very grateful for that.

Linda J Hansen: Well, that's great. I know that that will be an important book for people to read and consider. You know, we are in a spiritual battle. This is one of the things I try to let people know is this is a spiritual battle. We are really fighting good versus evil. So we can see, yes, we have, you know, the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab, and all his minions and Bill Gates, and everybody deciding what our lives should be.

But this is rooted in something so much deeper. This is good versus evil and the only way we truly fight it is with God's power and through prayer, through action that He directs, you know, like we can't fight it without Him. 

So, the fact that you went through that. Dark season of the soul and, you know, I believe God inspired you to write this. And, you know, he takes us through valleys a lot. And so, everyone listening, you may be in a valley, you may be looking at what's happening in America right now, what's happening around the world, you may be scared to death or you may be unaware. I don't know who's listening to this right now. 

But if you're unaware, we want you to know about these things. You know, one of the ways you fight a war is you have to know your enemy, of course. But so you have to realize that this is a spiritual battle, but then what can you do, yourself where you are?

Of course, with Prosperity 101®, I want to, you know, provide action points, action, action, action for everyone, but my heart and cry is that employers step up and educate employees about these issues because there's so many millions of employees who go to voting booths all the time and vote themselves out of a job because they really don't understand a policy.

They don't understand how does the fall of Afghanistan affect my job. How does what's happening in Nigeria affect this? How does what's happening with the Great Reset affect my daily life? Well, it does. 

Jason Jones: Can I give you some specific examples? 

Linda J Hansen: Yes, please do. 

Jason Jones: So, I have I think the core chapter in my book is the chapter on victimism. Victimism is a word that was coined by the French anthropologist René Girard in the 90s. 

He said that really, victimism is the ideology of Antichrist. This is from one of the most respected thinkers in the history of France. He said that victimism is the ideology of Antichrist. It's the feigning of concern for the vulnerable to acquire wealth and power.

Solidarity is sharing one's wealth and power in the service of the vulnerable, putting you, making you vulnerable and as poor as them. So, this is the difference between solidarity and victimism. 

Now, the main ideological technique of the globalists, of the Left, of the administrative state, of the deep state, what I call the mystical body of antichrist is victimism.

So, victimism feigns concern for the weak to acquire power and let's look at how it impacted Wisconsin, for example, directly. Immigration, so they say that anyone who advocates for order at the border, that the U. S. controls the border, not the cartels, and that we have a same migration policy, they call racists and bigots.

But let's look at the truth. What has the open border done? Do you know who the open border has hurt more than America? The migrants and our neighbors. We have an economy that rests on millions of illegals, exploited in a dangerous underground economy. They're drawn away from their communities that causes a breakdown in their families.

Traditional communities, rural traditional communities, or farming communities, that's why they come here to do this type of work. They know it. They knew it for generations. They have historical, familial knowledge in these skills, and the virtues that go into being a good agricultural worker. People in Wisconsin know all about this. They come here. Who else is coming across that open border? Criminals? Rapists? This is true. Terrorists.

Linda J Hansen: Terrorists.

Jason Jones: Now most of them are hardworking, decent, good people being ripped away from their families, the vast majority of most of them. But there's a lot of bad actors, and the ones who aren't bad actors are being exploited.

And fentanyl's coming across the border killing an American young person every 11 seconds. But if we oppose that, we're bigots. But if you support that, you are the bigot. Because if you support that, what you're saying is, break down Guatemala, break down Honduras, break down Mexico, kill children with fentanyl, exploit illegal immigrants, and then allow terrorists.

We just found out that there are many, many members of the terror watch list that they know, they now know through facial recognition had crossed the border and are here and we don't know where they are. Like, this is unbelievable. Well, why do we have a, why were all these migrants flooding here? NAFTA obliterated the family farms in Mexico.

So, the men that worked on family farms, they told us the NAFTA was going to rise all, all ships, all tides. Yeah, it raised Bain capital. The banksters did okay. They did well. But what happened was that it's perverted our economies. Just like the subsidies for ethanol have perverted farmers. 

When you start subsidizing using food for fuel, this is leading to, you know, our ag industry has done a great job eliminating global hunger, but then why do we allow the climate cult lunatics to come and corrupt the ag industry with ethanol, which is a joke, the same way they could corrupted the abortion, the medical industry with abortion?

So, these are all examples, and I pick things that are hard to say because they'll challenge maybe what a lot of your, the listeners and viewers will believe because of orthodoxy on the Right. But the reality is we need to secure the border to protect us, but to protect migrants. We need a humane economy, not an exploitative economy, not an economy driven by the war party.

What is this charade in Ukraine? General Milley said in the first two weeks of the war, or two months of the war, that Ukraine will never win. But we don't need them to win. All we need is a quagmire. What does a quagmire look like? A generation of dead Ukrainian boys and Russian boys. That's what it looks like.Looks like women without husbands. Children without fathers, veterans without arms and legs, a broken heart and a broken mind. 

This is what a quagmire looks like. It looks like human sex trafficking, the breakdown of families. For what? We feel a little safer. But why, what's driving this? And we talk about all the money that's going to Ukraine. The money's not going to Ukraine. The money's going to American defense contractors and arms manufacturers. They get the money. They buy the guns. Ukrainian boys die with American guns. That's the deal. 

Linda J Hansen: It's also going to crooked politicians. 

Jason Jones: Yeah, they're the deal. They get their cut, right? 

Linda J Hansen: Yes. 

Jason Jones: You buy weapons from us. You get your finder’s fee. You get your percentage. 

Linda J Hansen: Well, and before we move on, I just want to add something else about Wisconsin. You know, every town is a border town now. Every state is a border state. There is, you know, we have the border issue, but every place is affected. And even years ago, I was involved in a Regulatory Reform Project that was working against regulations that were impacting the lumber industry and the paper industry in Wisconsin. Right? 

So, we were doing hearings and things up in northern Wisconsin. And I remember we had a law enforcement official. I can't remember if he's sheriff or police, but that actually testified in this hearing about how the forest, the national forest there had become a no man's land part of it, where the law enforcement couldn't even go because the loggers were not allowed to log anymore because of the environmental things, right?

So, the loggers were not allowed to help manage this forest but so, it became you know,, a no man's land and it became very dangerous. There were booby traps for people. They were guarded by drones, everything, I mean, and there was big marijuana grow there. There was, you know, so, there were immigrants there, illegals there that had basically taken over the forest. And this is just in a little small town in northern Wisconsin. 

Jason Jones: That’s unbelievable.

Linda J Hansen: Well, this is years ago. So, this was probably 10, 12 years ago, 10 years ago maybe. And I'm thinking, okay, how bad is it now? Right? But here's what happened is they finally caught some, right? Caught some of the illegals that were doing this and they wouldn't talk and wouldn't talk.

And then one day they all talked. And I remember this was so chilling, the law enforcement officer said, they asked them, “Why are you talking now?” And he said, “Because they found out. We were jailed and they killed all our women and children, and hung them from bridges in Mexico.” This is the evil that we're dealing with.

Jason Jones: And I'm so glad you brought this up because look, I was just in Italy. All towns in the Western world are now border towns. But when you create regime change wars and then ISIS springs out of nowhere and massacres Christians and Yazidis and Kurds, and they're fleeing for their life, and then now we're being bombarded, and we have an immigrant crisis.

And these are a lot of young men are not just, they're not Islamists. Our biggest fear I have for these refugees, especially from the wars in the Middle East, it's not that they're going to be Islamists. It's that they are traumatized. They have post-traumatic stress. They're emotionally and mentally destroyed. They're living in an alien land that couldn't be more bizarre from where they're from. You know, it's just strange. 

And their hearts are broken. Their relatives were murdered. I have Yazidi friends, and Abraham came out of the Yazidi. Jews and Kurds and Arabs descend from the Yazidi people. They're still there, you know. And the Samaritans are still there. The Middle East is amazing. 

Well, ISIS tried to eradicate them. And one of my Yazidi friends, every member of her village, her mom, her dad, her brothers, her aunts, her uncles, her cousins, her neighbors, dead. 

Linda J Hansen: Now this brings up a really good point, and I know we have to close, because our time, we've, so listeners, I hope you've stayed with us, even though this is a little longer than usual, but you can start to see how this really, the ripple effects of bad policy.

So, when I talk about how this affects your business, how does this affect your employer? Well, your tax money is paying for a lot of this that we're talking about it. So, you know, it may not be filling the potholes in your area or providing funding for your police or fire department, but your tax dollars are funding a lot of this chaos. And that's just one way. Then we see that your security is impacted. 

For employers, why does the immigration, the open border matter to you right now? Well, we can see every town's a border town, everything. But I love what you brought up about the post-traumatic stress of these immigrants. Not only the immigrants who just come, you know, morally good causes and things, but these immigrants who have been so victimized through human trafficking, whether it's labor trafficking or the horrors of sex trafficking, especially for these young children.

So we have these kids who have been rented and sold, and rented and sold, back and forth across the border, and abused sexually and in every other way. And then they are going to grow up in our country and we, how does that make good citizens?

Jason Jones: And they're going to be men.

Linda J Hansen: They're going to be men and—

Jason Jones: They’re going to be men. Those children that were abused, become men that were abused.

Linda J Hansen: Yes.

Jason Jones: It's scary.

Linda J Hansen: Yes.

Jason Jones: And this is scary. And so, we need to secure the border.

Linda J Hansen: Yes.

Jason Jones: We need, look, I love a family of immigrants. We're all family of immigrants. We love this country. 

Linda J Hansen: Yes.

Jason Jones: I love everything about this country. 

Linda J Hansen: But take care of the human rights of the immigrant as well as the nation. 

Jason Jones: If we want 11 million migrants, then then do it legally, Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street. Do it, advocate for expansions and legal immigration.

Linda J Hansen: Yes.

Jason Jones: Secure border. No one should get in this country that we don't want in this country. We can't do that. Of course, we can do that. North Korea can do it. We can't do it. Berlin, if the East Germans could keep you from leaving East Berlin, we sure as heck can control our border.

Linda J Hansen: Exactly.

Jason Jones: Don’t want to.

Linda J Hansen: It’s freedom protecting to protect our border because it protects our resources and it protects our citizens. It's freedom protecting. So, it's the wise choice all the way around, but we do need to close. 

And so, I just want to ask you one final question, like I've talked a lot about how tying this together with why this matters to employers and employees and why when people go to the voting booth, they need to think about these policies.

What would be one thing, before we give your contact information and everything, what would be one thing you'd say to employers about why they need to discuss these issues with employees? 

Jason Jones: Okay, I love this question. As someone who's an employer and in becoming an employer the past 20 years, it's the greatest honor and privilege.

I can tell you. I love payday. I love making payroll and it's not easy. And I've had to, I've had to take out loans secured by my house at times to make payroll. And you can see I'm tearing up because just talking about this, I'm thinking of these employers, everyone that's watching this, you've done that, or you've thought about doing that.

And I want the employees to know your bosses, your employers have done that, or thought about doing that more for you than for their business. And then there comes a point where your business, it's like at war, you're not at war for your country at one point. You're there for the man to the left and the right of you.

And there comes a point as employers that we are, as owners or operators, we are there for the people we employ. We want to grow our businesses. We want to give them raises. We want to promote them. We want to create new departments so we can have new opportunities. 

So, I know, and I know labor laws are strange now. It gets to be very scary. You can't even mentor people nowadays without it being kind of a fearful situation. But I think that it's important that we communicate to those who we've employed, first and foremost, without words, how we treat them humanely, with dignity, that we're really their servants.

They're serving our dreams. Everyone who works for us is serving our dreams. We owe them for that. Well, I'm grateful to everyone who works for my organization because they are in the service of what I set out to do. And I want to serve them. And if it's to help them launch their own business or their own non-profit organization or put them into a business that they'd like to go into, get them their next job, move them up and out. I love moving people up and out. I take such pride in that. 

They need to know how important elections are and that the biggest obstacle that we face is not competition. It's the government, an abusive, reckless government. But if, we can be stressed, there were times and I don't run a business. I run a nonprofit, but I run it. It's an apostolate to me more than it's an NGO. 

There were times my wife would say I would be lying in bed, and I would be just doing the numbers. She would just hear me like with my eyes closed trying to figure out how I can make payroll. And you know, so maybe we're the nasty boss that week. They don't know we're nasty because we're stressed out how to make payroll for them, you know. You know, let them know that we're partners and that that our interests are aligned in the voting booth and we should vote for aligned interests. 

Linda J Hansen: That's so good. And it needs to be presented in a nonpartisan way. And you mentioned before about how you need to let them know how much you care. And I say that all the time. And when we share truth with employees, when we share truth in the workplace about how policy affects paychecks, how you policy affects prosperity, which is not just money, it's human flourishing and freedom, how policy affects it all, then we're sharing truth and truth wins always.

So, Jason, thank you so much. Listeners, I want you to be sure to go to VulnerablePeopleProject.com. You will see a lot of what he's doing. You'll see all of this. We don't have time to go into it. Maybe I'll have you back, but I do want to talk about Reagan, the movie, another project you've been involved in.

So, MovieToMovement.com. You probably can find that. So, Reagan, the movie or the Reagan movie 2024. 

Jason Jones: Dennis Quaid plays Ronald Reagan. We have Dennis Quaid. We have John Voight playing the old nemesis to Reagan, the KGB officer was asking for permission to assassinate him. The movie kind of looks at Reagan's life through the eyes of this KGB agent who wanted to assassinate him because he knew he would be the guy to bring down the Soviet Union.

Linda J Hansen: Yeah. It's just great. So, there's so many wonderful things you're doing and ways that people can get involved. So, listeners, please go, start by going to VulnerablePeopleProject.com. You'll be able to learn more about everything that Jason does and thank you so much for joining with us today.

Jason Jones: Thank you, Linda. 

Linda J Hansen: Thank you.

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